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Shaneal left an interesting, thoughtful comment for the dissecting board.
"Your entire rebutal seems premised on the idea that men need sex (and thus women) more than women need sex (and men)."
Well no, but this much is true. We have vibrators, a far better facsimile of sex than your hand will ever be.
"Saying "they will leave you with nothing but your hands for self-satisfaction" is a double edged blade. true that if a guy treats you like shit it is your perogative to leave him. but he can, and should, leave you if you don't treat him with the same respect you demand."
By all means, he should. And no doubt he will have his hands for self-satisfaction.
"the simple truth is that any relationship will only exist as long as both partners PERCIEVE a benefit from that relationship."
Perceive being the keyword. People are insane, Shaneal! INSANE I TELL YOU!
" I can treat my girlfriend as poorly as I want, but as long as she stays with me, she is giving my behavior an implicit 'OK.' "
Or she could be one of those hopeless types that wants to change you. However, just because a woman stays with you doesn't mean she agrees with all your behavior. There will be certain actions she will inevitably LOATHE, and other certain actions that persuade her not to leave you, just like you say. And really, I must ask you, which girlfriend are you referring to? 
"She is, at some level, deciding that the good outweighs the bad and as long as she percieves some net benefit from the relationship, who are we to say she's wrong? this is why i've always had trouble sympathizing with abuse victims. If I were to strike my girlfriend (I never would strike first for a variety of reasons) she has every right to go and call the police and get my ass sent to jail, with some luck for the rest of my natural life. however, if she refuses to press charges and stays with me, that is her giving consent. I wouldn't feel sorry for her in the slightest, she chose that situation. men who continue to chase after their victims and force them into hiding/shelters are a different situation."
Just because a woman doesn't leave you doesn't mean that whatever "good" actions or benefits she receives outweighs the negative ones. Most of the time people - and therefore relationships - are complicated, and there are a variety or reasons that may explain a woman's reluctance in pressing charges. She may be delusional and actually love him. She may not be able to survive without him; she may not have anywhere to go. She may even be afraid that if she does, the man will continue to chase after her and force her into a hiding shelther - just as you described. You make it sound so easy; you hit her, she calls police, you go have wild sex with your prisonmates for all eternity. But do you know how many of these cases a court will actually hear? Do you know how little space America's prison system has for accused "wifebeaters" in comparison to the hordes of murderers, rapists, child molesters, drug traffickers, etc. that are already running away with probational freedom? Do you know how little time a guy will serve for battery and assault? People are funny, fickle creatures, and a woman's mistake or weakness does not justify yours.
"Obviously the abe lincoln, rodeo, and other thing were extreme, but even the most humorless politically correct bitch can see that they are just a joke, albeit in extremely bad taste. But what women seriously talk about (being manipulative, gold digging, and passive aggressive) are far worse."
Of course there will be women who seriously talk about these things, but there are also men that seriously talk about vile things as well. We are simply "jokingly" counteracting said vile things; thus, even the most humorless politically correct bastard can see that they are just jokes.
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birdy:
by the way nick, does it looks like there's six of us?
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